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Adsheet and Printer Ripoff Report

(c) - All rights Reserved EXCEPT permission Granted to

Buyers of this report to copy and resell individual copies of

this report at a price you determine providing it is printed

Exactly as written with no changes - You may NOT print this

report in any magazine or other publication.

DISCLAIMER: A lot of this report is based on opinion and

observation. Absolute proof of a printer ripping you off is a

legal matter and any comments contained in this report do not

pertain to any particular dealer. DO NOT go off half-cocked and

accuse any printer of ripping you off as you could possibly get

into legal problems. This report deals with "danger signs". A

printer having any or all of these danger signs my or may not be

dishonest... you be the judge. This report does not intend to

call anybody a crook ... just to inform you of shady practices.

If you feel a printer has ripped you off or a couple bucks...be

mature and chalk it off to experience. On bigger amounts...you

make the decision.

If you've been in mailorder for more than a month...chances are

you've been ripped off by one or more adsheet printers. This

report won't make you a mailorder genius but might keep you from

loosing your shirt prematurely.

The impossible dream...You've seen the ads...get 5,000 8.5 x 11

printed both sides and mailed for only $25.00. Who's kidding who.

The paper alone would cost about $4/1,000 or $20. Then there's 2

photo plates and ink and postage. Unless the people offering this

type offer are Santa, it's impossible. People that fall for this

type of ad are the ones that search through every publication to

find the cheapest there is...and there's always someone waiting

to take their money. If they'll lie to you about the numbers

printed...what else would they do to you?

Crooked adsheet printers fully realize that most of the ads they

receive will be from mailorder beginners and won't pull no matter

where they are printed so they sort of do the crooked

rationalization bit and become what I call ... 'THE COPY MACHINE

BANDITS."

The modern photo-copy machine is a great invention for the office

but in the hands of the unscrupulous becomes a tool for printing

phoney ad sheets, etc. The copy machines of yesterday made a copy

that was easy to tell it was a copy. The new ones are not so

easy. BUT, there are ways to tell...at least part of the time..

The real expensive machines are tough to tell...the cheaper ones

much more easy. Thank heavens most crooks use the cheaper

machines.

How do you tell...USE YOUR SENSES! Sight, touch and yes, smell

are the important ones here...

Look at your checking copy,,,An old fashioned copy is easy to

tell with the smeary copy look. Did the "publisher" really make

1,000 photo copies? Even if they stole the copies from their

employers photo-copy machine...how could they really print 1,000

copies?

Photo-copies of some machines have a really glossy look to the

ink. A photo-copy machine that has been used a lot often has a

dark smudge or line across the copy if the drum needs cleaning.

Also, a photo-copy machine has a "wider latitude" than a

photo-offset printer and will show things the offset copy won't

...for example the chris-cross lines of pasteup paper and a

shadow around all the ads if they have just been laid on the

paper and not really glued to the sheet.

Touch...quite often the photo copy sheet has a different feel to

it than one that has been "printed."

SMELL. The smell of fresh printers ink has a distinctive

"kerosene like" fragrance. Newer type copy machine copies have

almost no odor... stick your nose into the envelope and smell! If

you're a heavy smoker it probably won't work...also older copies

loose this distinctive smell. Older copy machines often made

copies with a strong solvent or chemical odor. However, the

latest high-tech photo-offset prints have little or no smell to

them...especially if a high quality non-diluted ink is used.

REMEMBER, the photo-offset printing process that we "mailorder"

people use so much of is much like a photo-copy EXCEPT a plate is

made and ink is used which is transferred by roller to the paper.

The "Round Robin" ripoff... A publisher offers to print your ad

in several thousand copies if you mail a few. I got one in which

I received 10 copies to mail. There were 24 advertisers...if they

all got 10 to mail, it would make 240 circulation...not the many

thousands they claim.

The RETURN MAIL PLOY. It pays to be suspicious of dealers that

send you a checking copy by return mail. While this might happen

now and then, mailorder publishing is just not that fast. Even if

you do your own printing...I can't believe that they fill out

sheets on a daily basis. A few honest dealers do send a mockup by

return mail showing what your ad will look like in their

publication, however, this practice is strange indeed. It is

designed so that their repeat orders come back faster. Awhile

back I received a checking copy from a dealer and later saw an

adsheet that looked familiar. I took out my checking copy from a

dealer and later was exactly the same except a different ad was

in the place of mine. A polite letter to the printer got back a

reply saying it was a coincidence (barf).

So how does one avoid being ripped off...or perhaps, ripped off

less?

The answer is awfully cruel to new adsheet publishers that are

high on hope but haven't got out an issue yet, but I advice to

advertise ONLY and you'll soon be getting adsheets in the mail on

a daily basis. After a short time, you'll realize which adsheets

really get around. However, some dealers do ALL their own mailing

(which is commendable). If you see ad adsheet or publication you

think you'd like to use but haven't seen a copy, usually a stamp

sent to the publisher gets you an issue.

It is rare indeed to receive a mailing from one of the copy

machine bandits other than a photo-copy checking copy. Remember,

couple dollars is a good price to run an ad but darned high price

to pay for a photocopy.

If you are interested in reading about similar mailorder topics,

why not send: P.F. Skeberdis, P.O. Box 27, Fremont, MI 49412

$1.00 a sample copy of his report series.

In conclusion, use your senses to determine if the adsheet you're

interested in is for real or poorly done photo copy.

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